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	<title>Comments on: Copyright is for losers* or What&#8217;s yours &amp; mine is ours</title>
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		<title>By: arif</title>
		<link>http://www.shahidulnews.com/2009/02/copyright-is-for-losers-or-whats-yours-mine-is-ours/comment-page-1/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator>arif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 06:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>discuss about chobi mela and photography http://www.amarforum.com.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>discuss about chobi mela and photography <a href="http://www.amarforum.com.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.amarforum.com.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ehab</title>
		<link>http://www.shahidulnews.com/2009/02/copyright-is-for-losers-or-whats-yours-mine-is-ours/comment-page-1/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>Ehab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure the media could not care less.</description>
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		<title>By: Glyn Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glyn Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately paternity should NOT be the most important thing about our images. Reputation and recognition is irrelevant if no ones feels they should pay for any work. With more and more companies using web based advertising and more and more companies offering creators &quot;a credit&quot; towards publicity, WHICH clients are or actually want, to pay for anything.

This whole debacle is a return to artists starving in their garrets! There is ZERO point in being well known if you are dying of starvation. The irony here is that there are millions of photographers, artists and writers out there who are NOT full time, who have other incomes which allow them to play with their creativity. For them vanity publishing is just great, having their image or poem or words seen by millions of people is all that matters, a huge massage of their egos.

For those who are living a LIFE of being a creative i.e., eating it, breathing it, going to sleep thinking about it and even dying immersed in it, their sole income is often a direct result of the sale of the intellectual property within their art. Even if they have tagged their work as their own, so no Orphan Works devil can use their work, WHO is going to see their work and then think about paying you for it when they already have free access? Even if they choose to commission you to create new work, how much is ANYONE paying these days for truly creative work? Certainly not enough to earn a living by. Patronage whereby an artist can actually earn a living as an artist was ALWAYS important and is now as much as ever. We may no longer have &#039;patrons&#039; as such but we have clients or customers. The moment those customers can go and download an artists images or words for nothing, in the name of &#039;education&#039; or &#039;sharing of information&#039;  is the moment that many of those who produce the desired works, will have to stop producing what is loved in the first place.

Like any relationship, one person cannot simply provide food whilst the other eats it or the provider will die. Both have to put food ON the plate so that both can share and survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately paternity should NOT be the most important thing about our images. Reputation and recognition is irrelevant if no ones feels they should pay for any work. With more and more companies using web based advertising and more and more companies offering creators &#8220;a credit&#8221; towards publicity, WHICH clients are or actually want, to pay for anything.</p>
<p>This whole debacle is a return to artists starving in their garrets! There is ZERO point in being well known if you are dying of starvation. The irony here is that there are millions of photographers, artists and writers out there who are NOT full time, who have other incomes which allow them to play with their creativity. For them vanity publishing is just great, having their image or poem or words seen by millions of people is all that matters, a huge massage of their egos.</p>
<p>For those who are living a LIFE of being a creative i.e., eating it, breathing it, going to sleep thinking about it and even dying immersed in it, their sole income is often a direct result of the sale of the intellectual property within their art. Even if they have tagged their work as their own, so no Orphan Works devil can use their work, WHO is going to see their work and then think about paying you for it when they already have free access? Even if they choose to commission you to create new work, how much is ANYONE paying these days for truly creative work? Certainly not enough to earn a living by. Patronage whereby an artist can actually earn a living as an artist was ALWAYS important and is now as much as ever. We may no longer have &#8216;patrons&#8217; as such but we have clients or customers. The moment those customers can go and download an artists images or words for nothing, in the name of &#8216;education&#8217; or &#8216;sharing of information&#8217;  is the moment that many of those who produce the desired works, will have to stop producing what is loved in the first place.</p>
<p>Like any relationship, one person cannot simply provide food whilst the other eats it or the provider will die. Both have to put food ON the plate so that both can share and survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting and well written. Copyright for photographers will no doubt be transformed during over the next few decades - it will be important to understand the implications of whatever we end up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting and well written. Copyright for photographers will no doubt be transformed during over the next few decades &#8211; it will be important to understand the implications of whatever we end up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Lutfar Rahman Nirjhar</title>
		<link>http://www.shahidulnews.com/2009/02/copyright-is-for-losers-or-whats-yours-mine-is-ours/comment-page-1/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Lutfar Rahman Nirjhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!</description>
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		<title>By: Pierre Claquin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre Claquin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Rupert

I met Francoise (Fifi) for the first time in Laos (with her gibbon and Yves Billy)in 1974 and then in Pnom Pen when she was not yet a photographer. Several of us pooled resources (a Nikkormat on my part) to help her start. Small world

Thank you for your article on copyright

Pierre (in Dhaka)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Rupert</p>
<p>I met Francoise (Fifi) for the first time in Laos (with her gibbon and Yves Billy)in 1974 and then in Pnom Pen when she was not yet a photographer. Several of us pooled resources (a Nikkormat on my part) to help her start. Small world</p>
<p>Thank you for your article on copyright</p>
<p>Pierre (in Dhaka)</p>
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